Jim Cornette / Eric Bischoff War Of Words 18.8.2010
Posted by David Damage on Monday, May 2, 2011
Under: Superstar Blogs
On his website, Jim Cornette fired back at Eric Bischoff's comments about the last decade of talent, Ring of Honor and more:
"Traditionally,
a guy who "draws money" means a guy who, when you have put him in main
events or important programs, sells more tickets (or PPV buys these
days) than other people who have been in a same/similar spot, and has
done this not just once or twice but on a consistent basis. There used
to be dozens and dozens of top guys who "drew money" in the territory
days. Now, there are a few, and they ARE all in WWE. The problem is, as
Bischoff either doesn't want to admit or is too clueless to know, is
that the way people like him have changed the business is the reason,
not lack of talent on the young guy's parts.
In the territory
days, the promoters didn't care WHO drew as long as someone did, they
would push anyone they thought could draw, all their businesses were
reasonably healthy, and they hadn't exposed everything/given people such
bad booking and silly shit so that when angles were shot, they actually
increased business. Now, these young guys are seldom put in the spot to
draw to begin with because the "stars" have guaranteed contracts, and
if you're paying someone main event money you keep them in the main
event, so few get the CHANCE to prove they can draw money (It happens
some in WWE, and rarely in TNA)--it doesn't apply in TNA to begin with
as some of the biggest draws of the past 20 years work/have worked there
and still haven't sold tickets/PPV's/increased ratings, because the
booking and company structure itself is incompetant.
Does that
mean those guys "can't draw" because the company they work for has lost
tens of millions and still doesn't make a profit of any real size? Also,
since it's been 10 years since anyone in pro wrestling drew BIG money,
not because of the talent but because of the shitty booking and poorly
run companies, as well as the fact that WWE and TNA have made angles/big
matches mostly meaningless by doing them too often, badly, and telling
people they're all phony to begin with, someone has to be blamed--are
these companies going to blame themselves, or their children or
families, or "writers"? No--they blame the talent. Companies like ROH
struggle because WWE and TNA have made LESS people, not MORE, interested
in wrestling.
He also shows his ignorance of his current
residence in a glass house--if ROH is a "backyard vanity project for
marks", what is TNA, since TNA has lost tens of millions MORE than ROH
has lost in the exact same time in business, doesn't that mean that ROH
is behind WWE but ahead of TNA? Do we grade by gross revenue or total
profit? WWE has created an environment where WWE draws as a show, like
the Harlem Globetrotters or Holiday on Ice, and the stars on a
particular card mean less than they ever have.
To truly have guys
in the business who "draw money" again, we would have to pitch out the
dreck like Bischoff and others who don't respect or understand
wrestling, who think they are Emmy award winning "real" TV producers,
ditch the comedy writers like Russo and Stephanie McMahon's comic
reading college kids, and push wrestlers who win, lose and chase
championships. People will watch what wrestling is now on TV for free,
and a few hundred thousand might buy the pPV's, but ticket sales for
wrestling will NEVER approach what they once were without taking those
steps.
That is why all the guys today who are actually draws, who
sell live event tickets and PPV's in big numbers, almost all work for
Dana White, the most successful pro wrestling promoter in the world. He
just calls it UFC. Bischoff sees no similarity bewtween MMA/UFC and pro
wrestling, which is why he is doomed to be a guy that was successful for
2 years out of a 20 year career. BTW, what other executive in any
company actively dislikes, disagrees with, ignores and insults the 10%
of people who are most dedicated to/spend the most money on their
product or service?
All of his "crossover to mainstream culture"
bullshit is because people like him, Hogan, McMahon, Russo, etc are all
embarrassed to admit they are in the wrestling business (and the
business hates to admit it has them) and they all want to be "real"
stars--only the Rock has done that, but I wish all I named would leave
our business to try!
This is just my offhand impression of this
nitwit's comments, but I think you're wasting time trying to quiz Eric
Bischoff on anything other than a good hair dye, a nice tanbed, a
well-fitting set of dentures and the current price of a 3 way at the
Gold Club. Feel free to repost any/all of this if you want.
Jim Cornette"
Eric Bischoff posted the following blog entry on his website…
FACTS HURT!
On the heels of the big "youth push" in WWE during the past several weeks, here are some facts from this week in the business:
"Raw's demographic ratings among males 18-34 and 18-49 were the lowest in seven weeks."
"Raw scored a 1.86 rating among males 18-34, which was down from a 2.03 rating last week."
And during this months conference call to investors Vince McMahon admitted that:
"Basically,
we had a lousy quarter," and then when on to pin the loss of Shawn
Michaels, Batista, Triple H, and Undertaker (all 40 + years old) as the
reason for the hit to PPV and live event revenue.
Now one could
suggest that McMahon is insane enough to be intentionally misleading
Wall Street with excuses that are not substantiated by financials that
wouldn't hold up under either SEC or Sarbanes Oxley Act 404 scrutiny, or
maybe that he has no idea what he's talking about despite the massive
success of his business model.
Or one could recognize the direct
connect between what TV ratings, PPV buy rates, and ticket sales have
proven time and time again, as well as what legitimate focus groups
conducted by credible media companies in the business of such have
clearly identified: the TV audience (including 18-34 males) rate with
ESTABLISHED (and yes older) stars!
Admittedly, these facts are
kind of dry compared to the subjective opinion of those with their own
agenda or the inflamed rhetoric that appeals to those perpetually
pre-pubescent, parasitic internet "experts" who neither have any
legitimate experience or success as executives in the television or
wrestling industry, and the rants of the terminally irrelevant trying
desperately to hold on to their last 200 fans.
But they are facts non-the-less.
In
my opinion Vince Russo, Dixie Carter and the team at TNA have done a
great job of utilizing veteran stars to help elevate some of the young
emerging talent in TNA and at the same time gaining awareness and
credibility within the media industry.
That's just my opinion. And my opinion is backed up by facts.
OUCH!
Sorry.
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