Lou E Dangerously Shoots On Billy Corgan & RPW
Posted by David Damage on Monday, March 12, 2012
Under: Superstar Blogs
There is a fine line between real life and fiction…
The wrestling business thrives when they can pull off a “worked” shoot since it usually creates a really good buzz. Recently, CM Punk’s WWE angle tops the list of the best I have seen in years! Followed by Matt Hardy’s angle years ago that really took a shoot and categorized it as a “worked” shoot. Point being working the fans, like REALLY working them, and REALLY working the boys is TOUGH to do. When you pull it off…it’s money.
Here is the thing…these guys had a platform to do this and that makes a difference. If you have a forum or a real concept to pull off something that really questions the lines of wrestling and storyline vs. shoot then do it. HOWEVER, do it RIGHT.
The promotion based out of Chicago who has done 2 shows EVER went right for the same cliché that EVERYONE else has ALREADY done…LETS GET THE LEGACY OF THE ECW AND USE IT TO MAKE MONEY FOR OURSELVES. It’s pathetic and does nothing for the future of this business.
When Billy and I talked about this promotion and the whole concept behind it last fall while he was in Vegas I was psyched for him and everyone involved. I really thought it would be unique. Well, I was wrong and maybe Billy believed his money mark promoters that what they said was actually fact. I have no idea; we haven’t talked about it lately.
What I will say is this…I would have NEVER taken to a public forum like Twitter if I wasn’t really HURT and PISSED that I was lied to, Billy was lied to, and MORE SO the FANS were lied to.
The Chicago based promotion is NOT unique. It’s the same cookie cutter crap that EVERYONE else does.
Here is the recipe:
A money mark(s) decide(s) to play wrestling promoter and booker
Announce you are starting something NEW and DIFFERENT
Find a face for your promotion
Capitalize on said faces hard work and credibility
Pretend the press you get is from how awesome the money marks ideas are vs. the face
Find a rundown crappy building or nightclub as your “Arena”
Book some rising stars
Start a Twitter account
Have your first show
Make no money on first show
Decide to go to what everyone else goes to…ECW
Start pimping out the second coming of ECW
Run another show
Realize ECW was a legitimate promotion that money mark promoters can’t get close to replicating
Realize the fans are smarter than you
Lou E Dangerously Shoots On Billy COrgan
Realize you should be sitting in the crowd WATCHING the show with rest of the fans
Fold
Repeat once when you find more money
I am so sorry for Billy. This guy loves the business. He is getting SO railroaded right now.
As mentioned on this blog, and other interviews I have done in the past, Billy’s first wrestling angle was in ECW and it was booked by Tommy Dreamer and me with the blessing of Paul Heyman. What he did for ECW at the time of that angle with me was HUGE. I will never forget him doing that for the company.
In October 2008 he asked me to open his Philadelphia concert run with the Smashing Pumpkins to announce a special show he was doing (acoustic/electric) and I happily obliged. Look, times are tough and if he needed to use me to sell tickets for his band it was fine. I helped him out before by getting him mad press when he returned to do more ECW stuff at our sold-out shows at the Hammerstein Ballroom in New York so helping again wasn’t a problem. We rocked it! I stiffed him so bad with my phone and gave him a concussion and he gave me one the next night with a guitar.
The best part about the NYC run was Courtney Love calling me thanking me for helping her friend maintain some spotlight and notoriety. Man, what a great girl and just an incredible song writer filled with passion beyond ANYTHING I have ever seen in any musician I have ever met. I am so grateful to still have her faithful dedication to life and friendship in my soul today.
See, the wrestling promotion in Chicago can’t mess with blood.
Billy isn’t a rock God to me…he is a friend….he is family…he was in my wedding…he knows my kids…and the people in Chicago crossed many lines in trying to create more press for themselves by pitting Billy and I against each other.
They tried to sell him out for what?? 10 tickets? I mean….I am a realist…Lou E. is a thing of the past…and I was thrilled to have that past and AT LEAST I had that past….
Did the guys at Resistance Pro?
No.
Will they?
No way.
The wrestling business thrives when they can pull off a “worked” shoot since it usually creates a really good buzz. Recently, CM Punk’s WWE angle tops the list of the best I have seen in years! Followed by Matt Hardy’s angle years ago that really took a shoot and categorized it as a “worked” shoot. Point being working the fans, like REALLY working them, and REALLY working the boys is TOUGH to do. When you pull it off…it’s money.
Here is the thing…these guys had a platform to do this and that makes a difference. If you have a forum or a real concept to pull off something that really questions the lines of wrestling and storyline vs. shoot then do it. HOWEVER, do it RIGHT.
The promotion based out of Chicago who has done 2 shows EVER went right for the same cliché that EVERYONE else has ALREADY done…LETS GET THE LEGACY OF THE ECW AND USE IT TO MAKE MONEY FOR OURSELVES. It’s pathetic and does nothing for the future of this business.
When Billy and I talked about this promotion and the whole concept behind it last fall while he was in Vegas I was psyched for him and everyone involved. I really thought it would be unique. Well, I was wrong and maybe Billy believed his money mark promoters that what they said was actually fact. I have no idea; we haven’t talked about it lately.
What I will say is this…I would have NEVER taken to a public forum like Twitter if I wasn’t really HURT and PISSED that I was lied to, Billy was lied to, and MORE SO the FANS were lied to.
The Chicago based promotion is NOT unique. It’s the same cookie cutter crap that EVERYONE else does.
Here is the recipe:
A money mark(s) decide(s) to play wrestling promoter and booker
Announce you are starting something NEW and DIFFERENT
Find a face for your promotion
Capitalize on said faces hard work and credibility
Pretend the press you get is from how awesome the money marks ideas are vs. the face
Find a rundown crappy building or nightclub as your “Arena”
Book some rising stars
Start a Twitter account
Have your first show
Make no money on first show
Decide to go to what everyone else goes to…ECW
Start pimping out the second coming of ECW
Run another show
Realize ECW was a legitimate promotion that money mark promoters can’t get close to replicating
Realize the fans are smarter than you
Lou E Dangerously Shoots On Billy COrgan
Realize you should be sitting in the crowd WATCHING the show with rest of the fans
Fold
Repeat once when you find more money
I am so sorry for Billy. This guy loves the business. He is getting SO railroaded right now.
As mentioned on this blog, and other interviews I have done in the past, Billy’s first wrestling angle was in ECW and it was booked by Tommy Dreamer and me with the blessing of Paul Heyman. What he did for ECW at the time of that angle with me was HUGE. I will never forget him doing that for the company.
In October 2008 he asked me to open his Philadelphia concert run with the Smashing Pumpkins to announce a special show he was doing (acoustic/electric) and I happily obliged. Look, times are tough and if he needed to use me to sell tickets for his band it was fine. I helped him out before by getting him mad press when he returned to do more ECW stuff at our sold-out shows at the Hammerstein Ballroom in New York so helping again wasn’t a problem. We rocked it! I stiffed him so bad with my phone and gave him a concussion and he gave me one the next night with a guitar.
The best part about the NYC run was Courtney Love calling me thanking me for helping her friend maintain some spotlight and notoriety. Man, what a great girl and just an incredible song writer filled with passion beyond ANYTHING I have ever seen in any musician I have ever met. I am so grateful to still have her faithful dedication to life and friendship in my soul today.
See, the wrestling promotion in Chicago can’t mess with blood.
Billy isn’t a rock God to me…he is a friend….he is family…he was in my wedding…he knows my kids…and the people in Chicago crossed many lines in trying to create more press for themselves by pitting Billy and I against each other.
They tried to sell him out for what?? 10 tickets? I mean….I am a realist…Lou E. is a thing of the past…and I was thrilled to have that past and AT LEAST I had that past….
Did the guys at Resistance Pro?
No.
Will they?
No way.
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