Vince McMahon Q & A: Comments On Buying TNA
Posted by David Damage on Saturday, April 30, 2011
Under: Interviews
WWE
held their annual stockholder's meeting today in Stamford, CT. During
the meeting, the floor was opened for questions from stockholders:
Vince
McMahon was asked about WWE's relationship with the Rock, specifically
whether the company's new deal with him was cost-effective, since they
obviously were having to pay a high premium for someone of his current
stature. McMahon responded that he and Rock are working on a handshake
deal and that is "how they have operated for a long, long time." McMahon
said it's all based on increased value. He said that if there is a
higher percentage in terms of growth in terms of what they would
"normally expect", Rock is "going to get a piece of that". McMahon said
their net was going to be much higher and he and Rock were proud of
that.
How the other WWE PPV events were doing compared to the
past was brought up. McMahon said the PPV business is down but he's
hoping that Wrestlemania's PPV numbers will be a kickoff for a new year
in terms of numbers for the company's PPV events.
McMahon was
asked whether Smackdown had retained its audience in the transition from
MyNetworkTV to SyFy, McMahon said that the show has just about the same
penetration now and they are very happy with SyFy, stating that they
have "been the number one show on the network" since they've debuted
there. He said if there's been any change in distribution, it's offset
by the advantages of being under the NBC Universal family through
promotion. McMahon noted that the syndicated network system, such as
MyNetworkTV, is in trouble. Being on SyFy gives them longevity and
provides them with non-preemptive status (i.e. they won't be bounced out
their timeslot), which is "so important" to the company. He explained
how they would often be bounced for sports programming on MyNetwork and
the audience would be diluted when they were moved out of the slots.
Triple
H's international development of talent was brought up, as was the idea
of launching other groups in other countries with locally cultivated
stars. McMahon said that there will be a more aggressive attempt to
bring in international talents and grooming them, but they need to
become stars here, because if they are, they will be stars elsewhere.
McMahon said that with Miz, Alberto Del Rio and Sin Cara, you are seeing
talents on the "fast track" to becoming the new "Rocks and John Cena of
the day."
The company's intellectual property was brought up and
McMahon was asked what the biggest problem in terms of protecting it
is. McMahon said piracy and that they have a very aggressive group that
handles that aspect. They noted piracy is incredibly difficult outside
the U.S. as well as inside of the country. There's no silver bullet that
can stop it. The hope is that as countries become more developed as
markets, they will help crack down on it. McMahon noted that they just
went on the air in Russia and Brazil "but we've been there a long time."
He said the best way to fight piracy in other countries was to actually
bring the content to the countries.
In regard to expanding and
re-branding the company, McMahon was asked whether he had learned
anything from past failures like the XFL and the WWE restaurant. McMahon
said that when you think about it, none of those ventures have used the
core competencies of the company as their current plans. He said that
they have no interest in going back into football or opening a
restaurant, noting that they "had to inherit that business right before
we went public." He also noted there was no interest in returning to
bodybuilding. He said they aren't looking to invest into anything like
that but acquisitions that they can "fit what we do" and things "we can,
in essence, flip the model on". McMahon explained that they can acquire
the license of an property and then run it through the same system of
distributions, context and partners that they put the WWE property
through.
A stockholder referred to the current WWE product as
"1970s/1980s comic book campy" and that some viewers feel that the
"scripts are belittling the watcher." He mentioned the PG content of the
show and asked if there were any plans to maintain PG but drive the
show closer to what made the 1990s so enjoyable for adults. McMahon
said, "It's important that you sometimes go backwards to go forwards."
He said they were so far from PG that you had to go back. McMahon joked,
"Where do you go after a chainsaw?" He said you have to go back to your
roots to go forward. He said that they have no plans currently to ever
go back to where they were in terms of an adult product but there are
ways to advance the product. He said they listen to their audience and
commented, "There's no doubt we could have a more aggressive and more
sophisticated product that encompasses all of our ages as opposed to
just strictly our PG audience. We are opening it up again, not to a
great extent, but again one that is certainly not insulting to any facet
of our audience. We are broadening a bit."
Another stockholder
followed up on the conversation, noting that some of the matches held in
the past were passionate, bringing up Austin vs. McMahon and HHH vs,
Undertaker as examples. He commented that matches like "Michael Cole vs.
Jim Ross" lacks that passion and drive that "wrestling fans come to
love and enjoy." McMahon said that it's important to reach, from a
demographic point, everyone like a menu at a diner. He said HHH vs.
Taker was very passionate and serious but they had Cole to provide
something else. He said that they are in the entertainment business and
there's always going to be a balance. McMahon said he would personally
prefer more from the serious side but WWE's E is for entertainment and
there always has to be that balance.
Another stockholder brought
up the "lack of build-up to PPVs" as a problem the company has. McMahon
said that they try to do things long term in terms of building an
attraction. He said that they attempt to have a longer range approach to
story arcs but with as many PPVs as they produce, sometimes there are
difficulties doing that.
A stockholder brought up running Extreme
Rules the same weekend as UFC, noting that in the past, such events
being held the same weekend has been detrimental to WWE's PPV buyrates.
He asked whether there were future plans to avoid running the same
weekend. McMahon said that there were plans to do so and they have been
successful in recent months to avoid running head to head. He said that
it wouldn't matter if it was UFC, boxing or another major event, because
the events all eat up the promotional time that is given to them by
cable companies. He said that they share all of that and that's what
becomes difficult. He said that they can't control that they have gotten
better at it.
Demographics were brought up, noting that more
women were watching the product last year, something that the company
touted last year in their stockholder's meeting. They were asked if the
rebranding would change that. McMahon said that he hoped that Tough
Enough and other new programming preceding Raw would bring in new
demographics. He noted that TE has shown to have more females watching
than men. He said that women have tremendous influenced in what is
bought, so its important to have the right image, but not at the expense
of the male demographic. Vince said that they want to grow all of their
demographics.
Sponsorships were brought up. A stockholder asked
why energy drinks and Budweiser aren't spending money with the WWE
product. He also asked about the K-Mart sponsorship. Michelle Wilson,
the company's Chief Marketing Officer, discussed the partnership and how
K-Mart's awareness on their website and live events will benefit their
retail outlets. She said it was a unique deal in that it was done
jointly with the USA Network. She said that they, as a property, are one
stop shopping, unlike sports products, since they can get talent
appearances, TV awareness and live event awareness in one place. She
said they have signed a similar deal with Mars and they are making
progress in educating potential partners of what they have to bring to
the table. She announced they have come to an agreement with Miller to
do a summer promotion with the Keystone Light brand and they are looking
to use some talents as part of that agreement.
McMahon said that
PG doesn't have to mean kids, it just means PG. He said that if you are
TV-MA, certain sponsors aren't going to touch you. He said that WWE can
be aggressive but also fun. He said that it's important that the
company doesn't do something outlandish that can put a blemish on their
sponsors and partners. He said that they are attracting more sponsors
because of their dedication to putting on a PG product for everyone.
McMahon
was asked about PPVs like Extreme Rules without blood. McMahon said
that you don't need blood to have shows of that nature. He said Extreme
Rules is extreme on your body and joked that he can attest for that.
McMahon said that people don't buy PPVs to watch others bleed but to be
entertained. The PPV will be a different way to enjoy WWE.
A
stockholder asked about how the loss of WGN affected the company and why
it came suddenly. McMahon said that it wasn't sudden. He said that
Tribune is "challenged" in terms of what it can acquire in terms of
programming. McMahon said that they do have a place for WWE Superstars
and for new programming that they develop and "it's not going anywhere."
Vince
was asked when he was going to "buy that company based in Nashville, TN
because they have the wrong people running it. Please save the business
from Dixie Carter." McMahon laughed. The stockholder said, "Stephanie
has more brains than Dixie Carter has." They showed Triple H and
Stephanie laughing at this development. The stockholder said that if WWE
bought TNA now, there "was a shot at fixing that company." Vince said,
"I don't know they are for sale." The stockholder said, "It's a 50/50
shot, they know you are loaded with money." McMahon said, "Maybe."
A
stockholder asked why they are using this smaller space as opposed to
the old facility in the production studio, where they used to meet.
McMahon said that space was being used and if they wanted to go to a
bigger space, they could but Vince liked it dirty and cozy.
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